Ethan Roberts shares how his journey took him to seminary and to eventually become a chaplain in the trans unit on Rikers Island. Ethan opens up about his own spiritual injury and journey of healing and how he creates trust with the people he helps in jail. We also discuss ways Ethan unwinds and practices self-care to avoid burn out. This episode is released in memory of Layleen Polanco who died at Rikers Island on June 7, 2019 in solitary confinement. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/26/nyregion/layleen-polanco-rikers-transgender-death.html You can contact Ethan @imagodeifag www.theforbiddenapplepodcast.com