Rev. Dr. Deb Berman is the founder of "Pride Ministry", a spiritual community for BDSM, Kink, and Poly folks. She is also an affirming psychotherapist with a focus on the alternative community. Rev. Deb’s progressive interfaith/interspiritual ministry is committed to the spiritual healing of alternative souls. She works to ensure the spiritual necessities of alt folks are covered. She also teaches and supports clergy in affirming these communities. Listen to find out more about Rev. Deb mission in life: to be a conscious part of ”The Great Chain of Being” To learn more about "Pride Ministry" https://prideministry.com/  Do not forget to sink your teeth into… www.theforbiddenapplepodcast.com