Today’s show features Frank Forencich.  Frank is an internationally recognized leader in health and performance education. He has over thirty years of teaching experience in martial art and health education. Frank holds black belt rankings in karate and aikido and has traveled to Africa on several occasions to study human origins and the ancestral environment. A former columnist for Paleo Magazine, Frank is the author of numerous books about health and the human predicament, including “The Exuberant Animal”, the book I read that originally led me to Frank’s work.

We live in a time where early sport specialization and pressure has led to burnout and high injury rates amongst athletes, but the “rabbit hole” to a dis-satisfaction with sport and movement in general for so many, goes much deeper than that.  As much as we fall prey to the stress-laden, year-round competitive schedule that leads athletes to higher pressure situations at younger ages, we also have “forgotten” our roots as athletes, and more importantly, as human beings, in so many senses of the word.  We miss out on both training results, satisfaction and longevity by failing to study our ancestral nature.

On today’s show, Frank Forencich goes into many important elements of our humanity that can help athletes not only recover and train better, but also help increase enjoyment of the training process.  These elements include human biorhythms, dance, play and exploration, getting in the dirt, benefits of training in nature, purpose driven movement, and more.  This podcast was truly important on the level of helping us use the principles of nature that define who we are, to help us in training, and far beyond.

If you bring drums into your gym, or for your workout after this episode, PLEASE let me know.

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Timestamps and Main Points

5:20 – Key trends seen in the animal kingdom, in physical movement that humans should pay attention to our own movement practices

11:50 – “Effortful striving” in human training versus more of a purpose-driven approach that is characteristic to non-human animals

20:30 – What the idea of “dancing being the original PE” means to athletes and all-human

28:20 – How play and exploration influences how we adapt to movement and training

33:50 – Frank’s thoughts on when to specialize in a sport, or movement practice

35:20 – The difference between the “jungle animal” and the “desert animal” and what this means for humans, training and moving in context with their environment

38:35 – The impact of bioregion on movement practice

40:40 – The impact of training in nature, versus training in an indoor gym setting, and then the “Bio-Philic” need of humans in regards to connection with nature

45:45 – Jim Thorpe’s primal and natural training methods

48:20 – The importance of getting “in the dirt” and actually connecting with dirt and the earth itself for the sake of the micro-biome

54:05 – Low hanging fruits on how to deal with stress better in context of our human biology

58:05 – The role of the athlete in modern society

1:01:55 –  How to build a total training day based on the rhythms and mechanisms of the human being



“There is no emphasis on appearance (regarding movement and “exercise” as observed in the animal kingdom)”

“It’s important to remember that sports are movement specialties”

“In human athletics, there is constant striving all the time that is divorced from habitat; it is almost as if we are training in a bubble”

“For the playful athlete, the motivation is purely intrinsic”

“We’ve lost sight of the fact that the dose makes the poison, the dose makes the medicine… the wisdom lies in remembering the shape of the inverse U-curve”