In this episode, Jerry Bradshaw and Debbie Zappia discuss: Debbie’s story and how she got into the sport world. The evolution of Schutzhund and how it is expressed in IPG. The conception of American Schutzhund and breed testing. The relationship between American Schutzhund and PSA.   Key Takeaways: Political pressure has changed the way that dog sports have changed over the years. There will be over 40 exercises for each club to choose from and the results will be recorded for each dog for breed test purposes. There will be updates to American Schutzhund from IPO or original Schutzhund to keep the skills relevant and important. Without good judges you don’t have a sport – not a sport that is equal to all. American Schutzhund is completely inclusive – you can be in other types of clubs and organizations as well as American Schutzhund.   "We don’t know if we’re going to be successful or not, we may fail. What we do know is this: we’re not sitting around complaining, we’re actually trying to do something. We’re working hard, we’re trying to put an organization together that’s going to make our vision a reality. What we can promise, is we’re going to continue to fight for the betterment of all of our respective breeds." —  Debbie Zappia   Contact Debbie:   Facebook: American Schutzhund Email: DZappia300@aol.com   Get Jerry's book Controlled Aggression on Amazon.com     Contact Jerry: Website: controlledaggressionpodcast.com Tarheel Canine Training:  www.tarheelcanine.com Youtube:  tarheelcanine Twitter: @tarheelcanine Instagram: @tarheelk9 Facebook: TarheelCanineTraining Protection Sports Website:  psak9.org Patreon:   patreon.com/controlledaggression     Train Hard, train smart, be safe.       Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie   Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.