A wonderful conversation with Jack Callahan, Eric Farber and Mike Pollard of Nina, who are building a protocol for permanent collections of music on the fast and affordable Solana Blockchain. Made all the more special that we come from similar experimental music scenes, we discuss the critical importance of establishing and archiving context for marginal musics, Myspace data loss and the revival of 00's era aesthetics, reanimating Scatman John, our our mutual appreciation of experimental composer Jeff Witscher, how protocol art is a more enduring framing than "NFT" art (equivalent to the LP as a medium), and our excitement and frustrations at both the rollout of Web 3 and its detractors. Nina Market: https://nina.market/Jeff Witscher: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_WitscherFlea label: https://newmusicindustrialcomplex.com/Julius Eastman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_EastmanMyspace data loss: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/mar/18/myspace-loses-all-content-uploaded-before-2016