We've covered all sorts of sports since we launched the BBC's LGBT Sport Podcast back in 2018.

From athletics to pro-wrestling, we've done the lot - but today, for the first time, we take a look at the world of horse-racing.

Russ Saunders is one of the people behind LGBT+ Inclusive Horse Racing - a new group that's trying to make the sport more welcoming and accepting for the LGBTQ+ community.

We'll be honest - we didn't know a tremendous amount about the sport before we started chatting with Russ, and he's the perfect guide to the sport of kings. This is a fascinating conversation that covers everything from how he got involved in the sport in the first place; to the steps that this syndicate is taking to help make the sport more inclusive; to what it is about horse-racing that continues to appeal to him.

We loved chatting with Russ - and we think you'll find him every bit as erudite and interesting as we did.

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