We argue about Michael and Susan again, and try to figure out how we feel about Michael's tragic arc in Season 2. We also interview the co-writer of "Adrift," Leonard Dick, who tells us about the intense debate in the writer's room that led to the storyline that ends with Michael killing Ana Lucia and Libby. Find us on Twitter @TheHatchPodcast, and at Facebook.com/TheHatchPodcast. Leave us your hot take by phone at +1 954-6-DHARMA, and please rate/review us on your podcast app. Our theme music is by Andy G. Cohen and our cover art is by Danny Roth.