In today’s episode, we’ll be talking a lot about shifting mindsets, which may sound very abstract and quite ‘self-helpy’ but it actually isn’t. Whether you’re at an early or later stage in your career or you just started your own business, there is a lot of value in looking at things differently. Our next guest, whose mantra is ‘make it happen’, really did -- but not without pluck ups along the way!Heidi Zak is the co-founder and CEO of ThirdLove, a company that was built to do bras differently. Heidi has been named among Fortune’s 40 Under 40 and her brand has made a mark in the retail and fashion world due to its commitment to inclusivity.On the show, we’ll talk about Heidi’s mom’s reaction to quitting her very secure job at Google, which can be summed up as “You’re leaving the best company in the world and do what with bras?” We’ll dive into our mutual experience of working with our significant others. And Heidi will share a huge pluck up, which involved half of her team at ThirdLove quitting and how she moved on from that moment of despair.Check out ThirdLove: www.thirdlove.com--Love the podcast? Rate and leave us a review!Follow Liz on Instagram:@lizbohannon@ssekodesignsThis podcast is produced by Hueman Group Media. Follow us on @sincerelyhueman.--- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/pluckingup/message Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.