Tonight I am joined once again by Jay Sommers of Sandfire Dragon Ranch.  Jay has bred everything from rare exotic newts such as neurergus kaiseri to hobby staples like whites tree frogs He has three decades of experience in the herp industry and in this episode he shares some of his thoughts on the amphibian business, dealing with difficult customers, and how important it is for new keepers to do their research. We then wrap up with a discussion on how Jay keeps his whites tree frogs and we talk about some misconceptions about their care. If you would like to support Amphibicast please visit: https://www.patreon.com/Amphibicastfollow @amphibicast on instagram