This week I am joined by Mark Pepper of Understory Enterprises. Mark has years of experience working with dendrobatids in the field, as an importer, and as a breeder. Mark also bears the distinction of having a recently described species of frog named after him- Ameerega pepperi. In this episode Mark walks us through how he started off, exploring Peru with a team of researchers, the challenges of importing, how understory began, how he maintains hundreds of frogs, what it was like seeing excidobates mysteriosus in the wild, and much more. Mark and I finish the episode with a discussion about new challenges that the hobby faces, and where it’s going. For more info on Mark and Understory visit:https://www.understoryenterprises.com/For AmphibiCast Merch, a 10% discount off of an In Situ Ecosystems vivarium, and to become a Patron, visit: https://linktr.ee/amphibicastThis week's episode is sponsored by Gray Ghost Creations. For unique amphibian, reptile, and arachnid art, visit https://www.etsy.com/shop/GrayGhostCreations