A couple of months ago the incredible acting teacher, To Be Or Not To Act's Jo Kelly asked me to come on her IG Live to tell her students how to find managers and agents and the conversation that unfolded was sooooo juicy I simply had to make it into an episode of the podcast. If you're an actor who needs representation this episode is a no-brainer: LISTEN. NOW.  After helping 542 actors sign with the right reps, I can’t wait to tell you all about why my rebellious, new approach to make agents want you actually works.  If you're not an actor, this convo has a lot to teach you, too: I teach the exact mindset you need to really put YOURSELF out there and to say what you really want. Jo is the perfect Oprah to my Deepak because she understands what it means to put yourself out there and she doesn't settle for fluff answers... – she grills me on why and how I’ve learned: A target list is the worst strategy you can use to find the right match Agents aren’t worried about your credits half as much as you are Your reel is a giant waste of time and money Referrals are dangerous!!! – and a big, gross energy suck Diversity matters (amen and hallelujah!), but it’s not a closed-door if your type isn’t in high demand I promise that you can apply what we talk about in this episode to getting what you want in any career.  P.S. If you’ve already watched my free training - Make Agents Want You -  this conversation will take you backstage on how it all came to be (and I’ll share the latest stats on how my students are doing reaching out to reps RIGHT NOW). Thank you for tuning in to this episode of Brian Breaks Character!   If you loved this episode, please subscribe and leave an honest review. Your review helps boost the show and gives us the chance to help more creatives get out of suffering for their art and into action. Be sure to leave your IG handle when you do so I can send a VIP episode to say thank you.   Want to learn more? If you’re an actor and your goal is to have a fabulous representation, come watch Make Agents Want You for free (https://www.makeagentswantyou.com). That way, you can get off the hamster wheel of reaching out and focus on the acting you were born to do.   CONNECT WITH JO Instagram https://www.instagram.com/tobeornottoact_jokelly/ Website https://www.tobeornottoact.com/   Subscribe To The Podcast https://plinkhq.com/i/1570747490?to=page   Watch The Uncut Behind-the-scenes Video Of This Episode On Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/brianpatacca   Need New Representation? Get In On This Free Training: https://makeagentswantyou.com   Follow Me On Instagram For A First-look At Our Guests And Upcoming Episodes! https://www.instagram.com/briansaysthat   Episode Transcript https://brianbreakscharacter.s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/EP26+-+Jo+Kelly+-+Transcript.pdf