Episode 122: Josh Caterer of Smoking Popes (1 of 5 interviews exploring the whole band and record Born To Quite originally released in 1994) talks to us about Born To Quit and then things spiral off into multiple directions at once including Producer Phil Bonnet and onward into Jerry Finn, Crooner or Poet or both or none, The structures of Old Standards, Irony and National Guilt, The Self and Others, The arduous journey to the songwriting of Pretty Pathetic, the yearning and the path to God, plus much much lofty, friendly, kindly, and laughable more much more.