This time out we check in with two of New York City's most inventive immersive creators.Cynthia von Buhler of Speakeasy Dollhouse has created a slew of intriguing immersive theatre pieces over the years, and none is more storied than The Illuminati Ball which returns this April in an intimate new edition. We settle in for a long talk with von Buhler – our first – about the upcoming revival of the Ball, her stunning graphic novels that interweave with her theatrical work, and about what fuels her prolific creative output. [8:00]Then we check in with long-time friend of the site Andrew Hoepfner about the currently running Bottom of the Ocean and how his background as a church pianist formed his quest to bring ritual into immersive work. [43:54]Upcoming NoPro EventsNoPro Book Club: Snow Crash (March 15th)DIY Publicity 101 for Immersive Creators (March 21st)AMA: Tara O'Con (March 24th) Get bonus content on Patreon Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.