And Calotes, and Cophotis, and Ceratophora and and and...so many cool species! Ryu has an awesome personal collection of obscure species and she is continuing to have success both keeping and breeding them. She's also the senior keeper at Reptilandia, a new reptile facility being constructed in Texas. Their enclosures are amazing, their species diversity is incredible and she is front and center for all of it! This was a great conversation and I can't wait to see what Ryu does next both in her personal collection and in her work at this amazing facility!