This was an awesome conversation! Jonathan has a wonderful collection of beautiful chameleons and is especially successful with the Ambilobe locality of Panther Chameleon. He is a proponent of individually raising baby chameleons and has a wealth of knowledge on that husbandry strategy. His website also has extensive lineage information on all of the chameleons that he's working with as well as links to genetic studies relating to the variety of Panther Chameleon locales! Jonathan's approach is definitely evidence based and data driven. I learned alot from his insights and look forward to seeing his work progress in the future.