Using national park settings as a backdrop for these programs can serve double duty – the resources are the perfect educational tool,  and the settings can really connect youth to nature. These settings seem to resonate with students', teachers', and adults' innate thirst for nature. Saul Weisberg, who helped found the North Cascades Institute in 1986, has seen students from every walk of life positively affected by their experiences in North Cascades National Park and other public lands that the Institute uses as outdoor classrooms. Saul joins us today to talk about the benefits of these outdoor programs. Erika Zambello also checks in with Friends of Katahdin Woods and Waters and their work in the national monument.