Dr. Jenkins sits down with Dr. Javan Bauder to talk about the past 20 years.  Chris and Javan have been working together to study snakes in a variety of places for almost 20 years.  Javan also talks about the USGS Coop Units and his current role as a Wildlife Biologist in the Arizona Unit.  Tune in to hear exciting stories of bush planes, running a metal rod into your brain, and indigo snakes in orange groves.Connect with Javan at USGS.Connect with Chris on Facebook, Instagram or at The Orianne Society.Shop Snake Talk merch.