Kevin Holland, senior pastor at Turning Point Church in Los Angeles, California, joins Michael and Jason today for a discussion revolving around the genesis of the great lie of identity. They examine the role that the father of lies has in this ongoing distortion of identity that results in the belief that some people are superior and others are inferior, how people of Paul's day were victims of that lie, and how we have been infected with updated versions of that same lie. Kevin shares in a very personal and powerful way how this lie has impacted his own life and presented an ongoing challenge to his vocation as a pastor.The discussion starts about 15:40 after "News of the Squatch."