Join John and I as we talk about his new solo album, Thunderheads, and connect through our mutual experiences of delving into the world of tarot readings, which John's first reading is literally on his new record, and what that's revealed for us.  We explore the journey this album takes you on, and an interesting story of how John came to give this album its title, and how so much of this record happened organically, as well as what goes into rebranding so far into ones career.
We also talk about how life works in interesting ways when you stop fighting yourself and how the results usually are infinitely better as a result, Warped Tour memories and much more in this delightful chat with John.

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