Sam speaks to Sarah Wassberg Johnson, Director of Exhibitions and Outreach at the excellent Hudson River Maritime Museum. In the conversation we discover just how important the Hudson River is to the development of American history. Topics include ice-harvesting, the great fire of New York of 1835, the American Revolution, the appreciation of the wilderness, the launch of the environmental movement, the suing of EXXON in the 1980s for polluting the Hudson, oral history, fishing, trade, power plants, and the extraordinary and unique ecology of the Hudson. Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.