Aliza introduces her guest, Pam Grossman, author of Waking the Witch and host of the podcast The Witchwave. Together, the two discuss feminism and witchcraft, and the ongoing correlation between women's politics and spirituality. They continue to talk about how each has made their mystical practices their full-time job and the daunting process of surrendering stability for the unknown when following your intuition. We discuss problematic figures in spirituality and witchcraft and the complicated process of determining the real trailblazers behind the gloss.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands