In this episode of UpOnly, Cobie & Ledger chat with the founders of Solana, Anatoly Yakovenko and Raj Gokal, discussing Solana, what makes it different from other L1s, why they think it will last, and more.LinksRAJ G◎KALANAT◎LYSolanaShow PartnerThis episode is presented by Blockfolio. Trade on an awesome mobile interface fee-free, and still get all the great portfolio tracking features you know and love: https://uponly.tv/blockfolioShow NotesMarketing Solana– It’s hard to even define what Solana is in English so that normal people can understand what it is– Very strong product market fit with Solana and developers– Next step: how do you get people to understand how to custody their own assets and why that’s important?Intros– Anatoly: “been an engineer most of my life, started at Qualcomm, was working on optimizing AR, was aware of crypto, started mining with GPUs not being used and pulled into crypto”– Anatoly: “had 2 coffees and 1 beer (LOL), stayed up til 4am then it hit – thermodynamics isn’t only measurable, you can measure TIME”– Anatoly: “Figured out you could trustlessly encode the passage of time then I was manic for a week… then talked to Raj and it all started”– Raj: “I spent 7 years in healthcare, started a company there, then was introduced to Anatoly camping and knew it was the biggest swing I could take in my lifetime”Who’s the Core Market?– We don’t even know– “Solana might be the go-to network to bring finance onchain in a way that finance people get”– If we engineer and optimize well enough, Solana will be able to move as fast as news through fiber optic cables (~speed of light)– Was introduced to Sam – 4 weeks after he tried out Solana they had built Serum– Everyone thought it was dumb to even try DEXs…– “but we knew if something was gonna work with blockchain, it’s probably gonna work A LOT”– Cobie: “I’d treat Solana as if it’s a developer platform with the core KPI as user traction”Developer Experience– Rust (coding language) acts as a moat– If you have enough conviction in the vision, you eat glass to build it– “The kid who built synthetify built it during his finals”    – THAT’s grit– C++ people do well with Rust, and tradfi devs do well with C++, so acts as a good bridgeEngineers– “at a certain point these guys don’t see themselves as a “rust” engineer they see themselves as a “get shit done” engineer”– Should we support Solidity? Should we support EVM?– NAH. If you’re that good then learn rust.Preventing Shit Projects– Gotta just use common sense– Lots of community review– These guys who came out of capture the flag winners, they just destroy everyone’s code– Free audits on Solana! These guys check your code lolSolana Timeline– How to balance timeliness with quality?– “Shit, that’s a hard question”– Our goal is through these hackathons, find coders that will code, no sleep, ship products, XYZ and just unblock their potentialHow’s a Founder Raise Structured?– Need the lawyer to say anything– Cobie: “per year of lockup there is some percentage discount from the market e.g. if you lock up tokens for 4 years then you get like a 20% discount or whatever”– Your tokens are the main thing you have in your war chestIs having a central planner, even if it’s a DAO, counterintuitive for crypto?– When you delegate your stake to the node you don’t change custody– but the node has full control over it– With ETH, you kinda relinquish custody to LIDO– On Solana you don’t have to relinquish custodySolana Community– SBF obviously huge– Bahamas test – if you went to the Bahamas, how well would the project do on its own?– Read “how to start a startup” but like how useful is that lol– I’ve learned you gotta ship quickly, and only focus on fires when you’re steering the ship– Optimize for shipping– Very important that the way the chain works is as optimized as possible (speed, security, decentralization)– It’s really hard to build tho lol– first time we booted it up it ran for like 20 min then crashed– Then next time ran for