Editor-in-chief Kyle Mann and creative director Ethan Nicolle talk to Jeff Durbin, a Pastor and Elder of Apologia Church in Tempe, a hospital chaplain, outreach minister, and a popular speaker. He’s a martial artist with 5 black belts, has played roles from Mortal Kombat and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, and is known for sidewalk ministry and apologetics debates. The guys talk about martial arts, video games, ministry, and Jeff's crazy adoption story. Jeff co-hosts Apologia Radio and Apologia TV, both found at Apologia Studios, and you can find Apologia's outreach resources for pro-life ministry at End Abortion Now. Pre-order the new Babylon Bee Best-Of Coffee Table Book coming in 2020! Get a Sneak Peak! Topics Discussed Martial arts Sidwalk ministry outside places where abortion takes place  We get Jeff’s thoughts on Abolitionism vs Pro-life activism An abortion doctor in Phoenix pulled out a gun to threaten Jeff’s group The arcades being the hangout spots Jeff’s video game roles Mortal Kombat: The Live Tour Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles MTV’s The Final Fu Subscriber Portion (Begins at 00:53:17) Real life self-defence stories Carman’s music inspires Jeff’s friend Behind the scenes with apologist James White What’s the deal with the coogi sweaters? Giving knives to children Jeff adopted a child who had a medical condition saved from abortion and then God totally healed him. Also mentioned on the podcast: The King James Only Controversy by James White. You need to check out this sweet promo reel of Jeff Durbin’s martial arts on display in MTV’s The Final Fu and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. The entire interview is available for Babylon Bee subscribers only… Become a paid subscriber at https://babylonbee.com/plans