On this episode of Doomer Optimism, Ashley (@RizomaSchool) chats with John Dios (@FibromyalgiaDad) about rural gentrification, homesteading, catholicism, and his project Holy Agony/Cathedral in the Pines. With a special pop-in from Willow Liana (@willlowthewhisp)!

About John Dios
Order, tenderness, piety. Cathedral in the Pines & Isolation Chamber.

About Willow Liana
Willow is a professional social butterfly and mother of a wee babe whom she is raising in the Canadian countryside.

About Ashley Colby
Ashley is an Environmental Sociologist who studied at Washington State University, the department that founded the subdiscipline. She's interested in and passionate about the myriad creative ways in which people are forming new social worlds in resistance to the failures of late capitalism and resultant climate disasters. I am a qualitative researcher so I tend to focus on the informal spaces of innovation. She's the founder of Rizoma Field School and Rizoma Foundation.