We're back with a brand new Doomer Optimism! This time, hosts hosts Ashley Colby (@RizomaSchool) and Jason Snyder(@cognazor) settle in around the proverbial campfire for a fascinating conversation with the one and only Empty America (@Empty_America). With interests that range from permaculture to political history, this conversation is as multi-faceted as the three individuals participating.

About Empty America
Semi-anonymous, Empty America can be found on Twitter and Etsy, where he sells classic outdoorsman's knives and dryland seeds.

About Ashley Colby
Ashley is an Environmental Sociologist who studied at Washington State University, the department that founded the subdiscipline. She's interested in and passionate about the myriad creative ways in which people are forming new social worlds in resistance to the failures of late capitalism and resultant climate disasters. I am a qualitative researcher so I tend to focus on the informal spaces of innovation. She's the founder of Rizoma Field School and Rizoma Foundation.

About Jason Snyder
Metamodern localist | homesteading, permaculture, bioregional regeneration | meditation, self inquiry, embodied cognition | PhD from Michigan State University, faculty Appalachian State University.