Are you trying to get into the field of Project Management? Or, are you ready for the next step and to move out of the PM field?  This week Kate and Kim have a very special guest, Ben Aston, the host of The Digital Project Manager podcast - one of our favorite PM podcasts. Kate, Kim and Ben talk about how to break into the field of Project Management, and talk about what may lay beyond project management. In either case, we share our experience and some examples to help you with your transition. Cheers!  OUR AMAZING GUEST BEN ASTON Ben Aston is a digital project manager and online entrepreneur – the founder of Black + White Zebra, an indie media company on a mission to help people and organizations succeed.   Ben brings over 15 years of experience in both strategic thinking and tactical implementation from a career at top digital agencies including TAG, FCV, Dare, Wunderman, DLKW Lowe and DDB. He's been fortunate enough to work across verticals including transit, utilities, FMCG, consumer electronics, eCommerce, automotive, financial services, public sector, and retail brands. Ben's a Certified Scrum Master, PRINCE2 Practitioner and founder of the digital project management blog, The Digital Project Manager.  Check out some of Ben’s amazing content -    The Digital Project Manager -  https://thedigitalprojectmanager.com/ DPM School -  https://thedigitalprojectmanager.com/project-management-training/  DPM Membership -  https://thedigitalprojectmanager.com/membership/ Black & White Zebra -  https://blackandwhitezebra.com/ Indie Media Club -  https://indiemedia.club/     JOIN THE HAPPY HOUR! Get access to all podcasts, PDU certificates, bonus content, exclusive member Q&A webinars and more from our membership! https://pmhappyhour.com/membership   STUMP THE PM’S! We love to hear about your tough PM issues, so please hit us up at podcast@pmhappyhour.com or on Facebook at facebook.com/pmhapyhour and we’ll see if we can help you. If we use your question, we’ll send you a PM Happy Hour coaster you can enjoy at your next happy hour.