There are a lot of parallels between running a country and running a company. Julia Gillard, 27th Prime Minister of Australia, joins us to discuss topics critical to leaders at any level.Such as, how to manage crises and war-game potential ones to be prepared to act quickly when it matters. The power of defeat and how it can help us clarify what we really want. And the urgent need to get more women in leadership positions in both politics and business, which is the topic of Julia’s recent book Women and Leadership: Real Lives, Real Lessons, co-authored with Director of the World Trade Organization Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala. We’ll also talk about the commonalities and differences of serving on boards of for-profits versus non-profits, and what we can do to fast-track positive change in the arenas of infectious diseases, mental health, and climate change. Throughout it all, Julia shares tips we can all use on a leadership reality: dealing with adversity—and learning how to thrive through it. To hear more about closing the gender gap and dealing with adversity, check out these Redefiner episodes: 

From Harvard to Hollywood: A Conversation with Debra Martin Chase 
Break the Bias: Closing the Gender Wealth Gap with Sallie Krawcheck