This week we talk with PICCT Security Solutions' CEO Thomas Geppert. Thomas and Chuck go way(!) back, and it shows. Moreover, this week's conversation shows the evolution of the protective industry and the capabilities its practitioners bring to the table by taking opportunities and keeping an open mind. Listen in as this leader in the space shares his views on the industry from a German perspective and its future operational and business needs.  Give us your feedback at protectiontalk@outlook.com.