Sometimes things just go better in twos and that was the case regarding our guests for this episode. Zarak Kahn is the Behavioral Innovation Director at Maritz and Erik Johnson is an independent Behavioral Science Consultant. They are the co-hosts of Action Design Radio and board members at Action Design Network. Kurt and Tim have known them as coaches and colleagues and wanted to talk to them about all of that.
We discussed how the application of behavioral science continues to grow in both the corporate and policy words. Today, there are more jobs, more workshops, more bachelor's programs, more masters programs, more PhD programs, more meetups and more bootcamps than ever before. We expressed our collective desires to make behavioral science so easy to do it will be ingrained into every job from UX to Marketing to HR, and how we’d like to see people applying a behavioral lens in all of their decision-making.
In our grooving session, Kurt and Tim emphasized the importance of expanding the community of people applying behavioral science and we are grateful to share the mantle with very bright and fine folk like Erik and Zarak.
  
Links
Erik Johnson Twitter: https://twitter.com/erikleejohnson 
Erik Johnson LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erikleejohnson/ 
Erik Johnson Website: erikj.net 
Zarak Kahn LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/khanzarak/
Action Design Network: http://www.action-design.org/
Action Design Radio (podcast): https://actiondesignradio.libsyn.com/
Robert Cialdini: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Cialdini
Dan Kahneman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Kahneman
Richard Thaler: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Thaler
Cass Sunstein: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cass_Sunstein
  
Musical Links
Idles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuQG6_evFc8
Local Natives: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_Natives
Lana Del Rey: https://lanadelrey.com/
Carley Rae Jepson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWNaR-rxAic
Wye Oak “The Louder I Call the Faster it Runs”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO7ffikJOE4
Sylvan Esso: http://www.sylvanesso.com/
Johnny Flynn: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Flynn_%26_The_Sussex_Wit
Sharon Van Etten: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7sTHoeH0eA
Gillian Welch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJ_nWPxrzmE
M Ward: https://mwardmusic.com/
The National: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIWmRbHDhGw