The UK government has laid out plans that will see migrants who arrive illegally in the UK sent more than 4,000 miles away to Rwanda. But the scheme has been described as "inhumane" and "cruel" by human rights organisations. On the Sky News Daily podcast with Leah Boleto, our communities correspondent Lisa Holland shares the stories from asylum seekers who say they're so frightened of being deported to Rwanda, they’re considering withdrawing their asylum status and attempting to live anonymously. We also speak to our correspondent Shingi Mararike, who was in Rwanda with the home secretary and has seen some of the places where asylum seekers will be staying. Producer: Emma Rae Woodhouse Junior producer: Josh Gafson Editor: Philly Beaumont