Declan and Nick talk about the predicament of being a human, and how that helps us to think about plays. They consider cats, Breaking Bad, Shakespeare, Beckett, cheese trolleys on the Titanic, falling in love, and the ways that good theatre makes us look back at ourselves. This episode was recorded on Friday 5 June 2020 ahead of its release on 12 June 2020. They take a deep dive into Act 5 Scene 5 of Shakespeare’s Macbeth, which you can read here (https://bit.ly/37qMxJZ) They also discuss several of their past productions, which you can find in the Cheek by Jowl archive (https://www.cheekbyjowl.com/productions/). Follow Cheek by Jowl on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and YouTube.Full transcripts of episodes are available upon request. Please contact info@cheekbyjowl.com to request a copy.