In this episode we talk to artists who use text as part of their practice: Jude Abell, Justy Phillips, Sarah Jones and Tricky Walsh about art and writing. We ask them simple questions in an attempt to understand the juncture of art and writing, and art as writing: Are reviews an essential part of being a professional artist? Does writing work to open up or narrow down an art practice? How is text presented as visual art, or what is important as framing text as art?