Fraud against UK citizens, businesses, and the public purse has reached unprecedented levels. But does the political narrative in response to this scourge match the enormity of the challenge? The CFCS’s Helena Wood and Tom Keatinge are joined by RUSI Trustee and former UK Home Secretary Amber Rudd, and Mike Haley from fraud prevention service Cifas, to discuss the findings of a new RUSI research paper calling for a fundamentally different approach to fraud in the UK, one which would place the topic into the context of national security.