Dr. Raissa Miller interviews Richard Hill and Matthew Dahlitz about their recent book, A Practitioner's Guide to the Science of Psychotherapy. Richard and Matthew unpack the meaning of the word 'science' and discuss its real-world application in the counseling room. They share multiple analogies and personal antidotes that emphasize the importance of attunement, curiosity, responsiveness, and intuition as the foundation of science-driven therapeutic encounter.   For more on Richard and Matthew, links from the conversation, and APA citation for this episode visit concept.paloaltou.edu The Thoughtful Counselor is created in partnership with Palo Alto University’s Division of Continuing & Professional Studies. Learn more at concept.paloaltou.edu