On the inaugural CSPI podcast, George Hawley joins Richard Hanania to talk about his books on the conservative movement, the alt right, and the differences between Trump in 2016 and 2020. They also discuss their article, The National Populist Illusion, on why economic concerns do not explain the rise of Trump.Sign up for CSPI’s Substack newsletter: https://cspi.substack.com.Follow CSPI on Twitter: https://twitter.com/CSPICenterOrg.Subscribe to our YouTube for video podcasts: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvs4ugq0xSvbvwArpFJG6gA.Learn more about CSPI: https://cspicenter.org. Get full access to Center for the Study of Partisanship and Ideology at www.cspicenter.com/subscribe