Can designing with trees result in more than just salad garnish? In the second episode of AR Ecologies, the conversation unpicks architects' obsession with trees in order to progress beyond superficial greenwashing. Scientist Suzanne Simard, architect Paulo Tavares and engineer Maria Smith get below the roots to reveal how to design for trees to thrive, not perform. Hosted by Sabrina Syed. 
AR Ecologies, a podcast by The Architectural Review, explores the tension between architecture and ecology through critical positions. Instead of standalone interviews, each episode weaves curious and critical voices together to meet, discuss and give space to perspectives outside an architectural orbit. The first series revolves around trees, an audio counterpart to the AR October 2021 issue, available now.