Roger Howsley joins Olu on the latest episode of Titans of Nuclear. 1) Roger tells Olu about his career from his start in health physics to becoming director of WINS. 2) Roger describes how he has witnessed the change of perception go from negative to positive and negative again during his career. 3) Roger describes the mission of WINS, security management and their relationship to the IAEA. 4) WINS is trying to normalize attitudes towards nuclear security by breaking down communication barriers and integrating with safety. Find more episodes on iTunes, Spotify, and here on our Titans of Nuclear YouTube. You can follow us on Twitter at @NuclearTitans.