Novelist Caitlin Macy (pronounced "CaiSH-lin"), author of Mrs., Spoiled (Stories) and The Fundamentals of Play, talks about unspoken class distinctions, her own family's fall from wealth, what it takes to make Upper East Side moms stop googling Hamptons real estate, and how she tries to get her daughter to wear socks. She references so many books and authors, it's hard to keep up with her huge, literary mind.  Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.