For the past 4 years Molly has been a Member of the European Parliament, from where she's championed all sorts of planet-saving causes. Now heavily involved in Extinction Rebellion, she's simultaneously breaking and making the law.

We chat to Molly about protest, the Gilets Jaunes, hope, and of course squeeze in some pointy-headed green economics chat.

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