We meet that Liz Bonnin off of TV and science to talk about the Galapagos Islands. It's far away, an ecological wonder, and slowly getting ruined by plastic. Liz tells us what needs to be done.

In our exclusive chat at the Royal Geographical Society, we learn why anteaters don't need straws, why being green is trendy, and what keeps Liz feeling optimistic despite it all.

Sustainababble is your friendly environment podcast, out weekly. Theme and other music by the legendary Dicky Moore – https://soundcloud.com/dickymoo

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