Curiosity creates the hunger to create," says iconic American fashion designer Thom Browne, one of the few so revered by both industry and academia. In our first JOYCE Live Curiously podcast episode, fashion editor and photographer Filep Motwary talks to Browne about the last 16 years: how a compelling singular proposition - a play on the classic grey suit - evolved to one of fashion's most interesting contemporary narratives. His obsessions, with uniforms and uniformity, take Alice in Wonderland-like turns on the runway. He reveals his love of order, both personally and professionally, and the belief that beautifully handmade tailoring is more fashionable than fashion itself.