Phoebe McIndoe is an artist and host of the podcast, Telling Stories. Cheering up with LeoraHowling with LauraTo offer your own animal kingdom advice, call Zak @ 844-935-BESTTRANSCRIPT: PHOEBE: I think the advice that I'm really offering is to identify a few bird calls for yourself, get to know the sound a bit and then you more or less created your own treasure hunt going around your city because you can go out and try to identify the calls and find the birds. So I'll start the call off and a robin will fly down to the branch near me. Especially when it's at eye-level and you're looking in its eye and the robin is looking at you and you feel there is a connection there. Dear, Zak. This is a poem. It's called Calling for Robins - When the jobs ran awry - and the real money dried upI wanted to let their liquid gold, spill through my ears When love went awry After change and tears I went to catch eyes with robins in the park To feel the old spark igniting in new ways They will just look at me as though I've communicated something in their language and they can't quite understand whether it's real or not. They listen to me and I have no idea what I'm saying to them. So sometimes I try and attach a feeling or an emotion. You are not sure whether it's understood you or not and I think that we always feel that whether it's an animal or a human being. We wonder if the connection is in our heads or whether they felt it too.When words were too Difficult to pronounce the soft whistle still urged itself upI offer myself to Robins, like the worm with the death-wishTheir call giving a shape and clarity to the day And in the pin-point of their eyesI seem to find some understandingRooting me back to the earth. So, when everything begins to feel awryI advise Calling for Robins. PHOEBE: So, let's carry on. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.