Our big summer books episode! Plus, Simon SchamaLooking for a book that will give you an existential crisis on holiday? Gris and Lilah talk with Innovation Editor John Thornhill about what this summer’s best tech books say about our cultural psyche. (John sees a future in which a machine can write about its experience being a machine.) Plus, a conversation with resident genius Simon Schama, who defends the value of wordy writingListen, subscribe, rate and review on Apple Podcasts. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.