Is the pram in the hall really the enemy of good art? We ask Lara Feigel, author of Free Woman: Life, Liberation and Doris Lessing, and the FT's Isabel Berwick. And later, Gris talks to comedian Deborah Frances-White, host of the hit podcast The Guilty Feminist, about self-confidence, male privilege and her years as a Jehovah's Witness. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.