Developers want bug-free code -- it frees up their time and is easier to maintain. They want secure code for the same reasons. We'll talk about how the definition of secure coding varies among developers and appsec teams, why it's important to understand those perspectives, and how training is just one step towards building a security culture.   Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw198