Rory Stewart and Alastair Campbell work out a plan for improving the quality of debate in Westminster. They also wonder what it would take for the electorate to dump Boris Johnson from power. Plus how to make the perfect porridge.Go to Instagram and Twitter for our reading list.Instagram:@restispoliticsTwitter:@RestIsPoliticsEmail:restispolitics@gmail.comProducer: Dom JohnsonExec Producers: Tony Pastor & Jack DavenportThe Week:theweek.co.uk/restGoalhanger Podcasts See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.