Joshua Goldberg has been part of the Max "scene" for as long as I can remember. He was there during the early days of video-for-Max (including being a user of The Software That Shall Not Be Named...), and introduced many people to VJ programming with the Dervish video system. In this interview, we swing from early history to recent construction art, but really spend a lot of time describing the ways we get to "happy accidents" and joyfulness. A super-exciting discussion, and it just reiterates the fun that I have talking to passionate people. The bumper music was made with the help of a sample set I recently purchased from Max Milllion. Fun stuff, and only 4UKP...