In an exclusive interview, Mark Chapman and The Athletic's Football Correspondent David Ornstein speak to the CEO of the Professional Footballers' Association Gordon Taylor about a range of issues affecting the game, the professional players he represents and the organisation he leads.

Topics discussed included; his salary, the winter break, the plight of clubs such as Bury & Bolton, dementia and head injuries, recent incidents of racism towards players and how long he intends to stay in his job.

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