In the UK, there is no clear consensus about how trans athletes should be included in competitive sport. Last month, a major review by the Sports Council Equality Group (SCEG) found that trans female athletes retain some competitive advantages and that inclusion cannot always coexist with fairness and safety. While the new guidance has been welcomed by some, it's also faced criticism from LGBT+ groups. But what impact has the controversy around the topic had on trans athletes themselves?This podcast was brought to you thanks to the support of readers of The Times and The Sunday Times. Subscribe today and get one month free at: thetimes.co.uk/storiesofourtimes.Guests:-Amelia Cox, journalist at TalkSport.-Verity Smith, trans rugby player, Trans Inclusion in Sports Youth Worker, Mermaids. -Sammy Walker, trans football player and writer.-Madeleine Pape, Olympian, postdoctoral researcher at the University of Lausanne.Host: Calum Macdonald.Clips: eNCA, The Guardian, ITV, CBS. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.