Donald Trump is under pressure as libertarian demonstrators insist their freedom is being infringed by lock down. Has the virus revealed the gap between the President's rhetoric and the reality of governance? And is the pandemic changing his re-election chances?Guests: Josh Glancy, Washington Bureau Chief for The Sunday Times.Julie Kelly, senior contributor for political blog American Greatness.Host: David Aaronovitch.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.